User talk:Gojita

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re: pictures
I'll gladly provide scans from the new Shaman King releases, though at the moment I only have volumes 21-26. I'll edit the Visionz page with newer scans, and I'll begin scanning/uploading the Perfect Editions' characters files and any other images as needed, starting later tonight. :)

Meo-chan 03:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll scan the character files, do you want the write up scanned as well, or just the image? Also, do you want the color spread pages scanned too? I'll get them in as high quality as I can. Meo-chan 20:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Haha, glad you're enjoying it. :) Also, it's probably a bit early for me to mention, but I'll be getting volumes 18, 19, 20, and 27 sometime in late April, so we can get scans from them as well. :D Meo-chan 21:08, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, no worries, I've just been a bit busy. They'll be up quickly, about 10 minutes. Meo-chan 02:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Names

 * Renim Over Soul: クリアコート "Clear Coat"
 * Thalim Over Soul: グリンッーズ "Green Suit"
 * Rutherfor Over Soul: グレインーサー
 * Spirit of Thunder Attack: *力雷

Infoboxes
You mean infoboxes.

I don't actually manually create those anymore. I built a special system, the iBox which basically makes it possible to create infoboxes without using the overly complex syntax. You basically build one up out of a /start and /end as well as /row, /header, and /box templates.

The iBox and it's related css are fairly tied into the shared resources setup we have, if you want to make use of those your best bet is to have the Shaman King wiki put into the sync que.

As for the color styling. The coloring is based off of generic color scheme classes, the class used is picked by a parameter to the /start template so you could easily have it pick out a different color class depending on group affiliation and add some styles into Common.css to style all the infoboxes.

Quite frankly one of the disadvantages of my internal personality, is that once I've created a good way of doing things, I can never really stand doing things the uglier way without it. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen -local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Mar 18, 2009 @ 23:21 (UTC)


 * Ok, I'll just note that the "sync" isn't to hard. Most of it is actually done by bot. All we do is add one or two references to shared and other pieces in a few MediaWiki: messages, I add the wiki's name to the sync que on the Animepedia, and the bot just starts copying stuff over. (Of course, it's good to get staff to give the bot a bot flag first). The only other thing we might want done is to check if there is anything at w:c:anime:Category:TagSynced that we don't want synced and want to put in an exclude for. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen -local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Mar 19, 2009 @ 00:05 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about the bot flag. Those are painfully simple to add.
 * There isn't to much dependent on either anime or manga. Actually to be honest MediaWiki:Sync groups controls sync groups for the wiki. As you can see in w:c:anime:MediaWiki:Sync groups and w:c:naruto:MediaWiki:Sync groups the media formats used are noted in sync groups and anime/manga specific things like the generic infoboxes are excluded in those cases. There's also a flag to only sync semantic stuff to wikis with semantics enabled.
 * Actually, I'm considering the idea of merging the anime and manga wiki into an animanga wiki since they're both fairly inactive. Though when it comes to anime/manga differences, for a wiki it's best to neutrally cover both forms. In Soul Eater the anime has branched quite far from the manga, despite that we're making a good number of notes on the differences between the series. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen -local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Mar 19, 2009 @ 02:09 (UTC)

Translation
I can only translate katakana in full. The rest takes a lot longer and is a lot less accurate. Just a little fyi. Haftorang 19:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Apparently baidu doesn't allow direct links sometimes. The link you gave me led to an error message. Haftorang 19:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * So many images...which one? The attacks of the OS's? Haftorang 19:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Scratch that, I'm dense.


 * SOT's : 九龍爆雷 (Nine Dragon Exploding Thunder)
 * SOW's : ゴツドブレス ハリケ-ン (God Breath Hurricane (the God Breath part is iffy))
 * SOF's : マグマ アッパー (Magma Upper)
 * GS's : 太陽面爆発 (Solar Flare)
 * 2nd SOT's : 磁場 (Magnetic field)
 * 2nd GS's : 紅炎 (Prominence)
 * SOR + SOW's : 氷河期 (Ice Age)
 * 3rd GS's : 彗星 (Comet)
 * which is blocked by SOF's 火山 (Volcano)

Arigato for the link...but my inner fanboy longs for SOR pics. XD


 * Yeah, well I was bored, so I figured I do the majority of them. Haftorang 23:34, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=560619055

Apparently, Hana's spirit is Amidamaru, Redseb and Seryam are adopted by the Asakuras, something about Horohoro and Africa (no clue), and Ren has a child named Men with Jeanne. Haftorang 17:07, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Evidence towards "Green Seeds" and against "Green Suit": http://www.j-prep.com/reference/word?sub=tru&ss=%E3%82%BA&type=vocab&dex=520&type=vocab&bid=1986780 "Shiizu" is most definitely "seeds", which fits with his overall style. Haftorang 21:54, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

More attacks:
 * GS: 超新星 (Supernova), ブラックホール (Black Hole)
 * SOE: 引力 (Attraction)

and Green Seeds' OS's:
 * O.S. ザゼンソウ (Skunk Cabbage)
 * O.S. ホウセンカ (Impatiens balsamina, known as Garden Balsam)
 * O.S. マルギナトケレウス (Marginatocereus, now considered part of the Pachycereus genus)
 * O.S. ラフレシア (Rafflesia)

Name Order
Is it really ok to keep the order they use in Japanese when they pronounce names!? I mean in English we use first the person name and last the family name and this IS an English wikia! Similarly that's also how translations are done and it's more correct that way. Tell me your thoughts about this please! -MasterDeva 17:17, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * In OFFICIAL translations the name order changes to western style and nothing is ruined! They are using the last name first instead of the person like we do because they have different traditions than ours but by changing the order we make the text more compatible and easier to understand. Since this is a wikia that promises to provide high quality material for Shaman King it is just natural to do things the right way! I wouldn't mind checking the entire wikia and correcting all the articles if decision is made to change the name order, if that's alright with you of course! -MasterDeva 17:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry if I confused you but I was referring to the translation of the (manga) and OF COURSE NOT the english dub of the anime! Consider the things I mentioned before with that in mind I'm sure that changes everything since I was talking about the original work of Shaman King!! -MasterDeva 21:49, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for reading my comments and sharing your opinions. There are some other things that I have to add. When japanese texts and literature get translated (and I'm not talking only about Shaman King) by professional translators in ANY language the order of the names changes according to that other language's standards. That's simply because of the procedure that they have to follow, it is as basic as knowing the alphabet. Furthermore by using that system it prevents people from getting confused about which is first or last name since most people do not know about this custom and that's the point of a correct translation. In a way you could say that you could keep it the original way by having the wiki read from right to left (like in the manga), which is something similar to what we are talking about, it is following the original but prevents us from properly understanding/reading it as it doesn't follow our language's standards and rules! -MasterDeva 20:35, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Major Spoiler
Shaman King Kang Zeng Bang Volume 27 - As said this link will provide you with the raw of Shaman King Kang Zeng Bang Volume 27, the final volume and the end of the series. Be warned... MAJOR SPOILER!!!


 * I can die happy now. XD Haftorang 21:51, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

???
i just got a compliment now my edits are reverted? enlight me please

i mean there's a lot of kanzenban extras on the articles why are those forbidden? Shamankingzé 21:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * so you mean i should use those images on the section of the article that talks about, the specific part of the manga where the "adult" selves of the characters make their appearances? Shamankingzé 21:45, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * can you put the images in the right sections then please? i'm new here and i have short time now, see ya Shamankingzé 21:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

looks like you are the boss of the site now edit
don't you think you want to block losers with alot a spam on here nee san? and I almost forgot someone is post pictures on profiles like crazy you better look at it. and also I fix it just for you Eliskuya2

Characters
I was wondering... are the character's names based on the Japanese version or the English version or the version translated online? Because most of the books are out now and they are calling "Yoh Asakura" "Asakura Yoh." Is it supposed to be that way? Waterdrop95 01:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Where are you getting the photos?
i see these updated photos from the kang zeng bang but where are you getting them. ive only been able to get up to chapter 14 for the shaman king profiles. what website are you getting them from? Gamajin09 03:45, 19 April 2009 (GMT)


 * thank you for that i feel sooooooo much better!!!

Gamajin09 05:49, 19 April 2009 (GMT)

Why did you revert the images?
Ok... really?

All the images I uploaded from the Shaman Files depict perfectly their appearances as adults, showing them fullbody. However, you reverted every single one back to the previous versions that barely show how they are. I mean, look at Lyserg, the image you put back doesn't even shows his face, we can only see a black cape in there. - Fraccion 16:10, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Aaaaan... but I didn't posted them at the story articles. The images were only in the character articles. I mean, I only updated the old pictures (and they are placed only in the character articles) so how could the images I uploaded be in the story ones? - Fraccion 16:14, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: Warning
You should know that I don't add images randomly, it's true that I added images from the extras into the history sections and I apologize for that. I know you prefer to stick to manga and anime images within those sections but the extras I added where appropriate and related to the text they appeared next to, they where not placed randomly. I have no problem with you on that issue but I would however like to know why many of my other images are being removed or deleted? I am refering to the images that have appeared within character's abilities and appearence sections. These images are not only of a higher quality to the images they have replaced but also a clearer depiction of what the images represent. From questions you have answered in the past and other articles, you have shown that this an appropriate place for those taken from the extras, but again and again im finding they have been reverted to previous lower quality anime depictions. I would just like to know the reason to why this is occuring. Blackstar1 21:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Variety is all well and good, but I dont see why it should be at the cost of both quality and depiction, the purpose of images is to support and inform yet some are so poor in quality they dont do so and that's where i've always aimed when adding new images. I understand all about the readiblity of an article and I believe I've always considered that when it comes to placement, trying to add the images where large blocks of text dominate the page. I try to refrain from using image gathering boxes, only using them when an addation of multiple images would be helpful but the amount of text in the article mean it wouldn't be appropriate to keep them as thumbs Blackstar1 21:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

duh
sorry for my edit last day. i just read my old message and now realized what you meant. it won't happen again. sorry. dumb me. maybe i can find manga panels that match that section i want to edit bye Shamankingzé 12:29, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Image removal
Hi i've been on this wiki for a very long time now and it brings joy when i see the new manga images of characters and their O.S's and it is clearly stated on the front page that this wiki does not treat the anime as canon so i am wondering why exactly are you deleting all the new manga images and replacing them with low quality anime images?Rhysno1 17:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Divine level shaman
I have a quick question. If a divine level shaman needs over 500,000 furyoku to control a god-class spirit then shouldn’t 5 elemental warriors have at least that much Furyoku? Gamajin09

Extra Deht Oversouls
I added pictures of two of Deht's oversouls that don't appear to be mentioned on his page. The first is the longboat oversoul used in the fight, and the second is the axe arm oversoul used by Horohoro when he tried to manipulate Deht during his fight with Blocks.

Both of those images can be seen here:

Kanachi=Kachina
You guys actually misspelled the name of the dolls on the five seminoan warrior OSes. The proper spelling is Kachina. The dolls are based off of actual ritual dolls used by the Hopi tribe of Arizona, and its spelled Kachina. Just thought you might wanna know.

OS GS pic
http://shamanking.wikia.com/wiki/File:M_SF03.jpg

IDK exactly how to put that in the article, but I'm betting you do. Haftorang 21:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It's a book called Mentalite. http://meo-chan.livejournal.com/218020.html

Silver Arms response
You're welcome, but no thanks are necesary. Just doing my part. If you ever see any other potential romaji errors, go to romaji.org. It translates kanji and katakana into romaji, although it doesn't put those slash lines over long letters. Those you'd have to copy & paste from somewhere else (I just found some on Wikipedia). Glad I could help. 70.88.46.190 17:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Usui Oyaji/Lycan
You previously reverted an edit by Meo-chan that changed Usui Oyaji to Usui Lycan, I was just wondering why as the name Lycan was taken from the information stated in Mentalite (which states all the characters names in english) so that would appear to be the most correct.

Hi !
Hello ! Thanks for your appreciation. I also read your page and was amazed by the goal you hope to achieve here. You're right that Wikipedia doesn't have many and reliable information on Shaman King so it's up to those helping out with this wiki here to create the best database for this fantastic manga series.

By the way, I'll be correcting things in many of the pages here after I finish reading the Kang Zeng Bang.

I also hope that you become an admin. I'll request it too, maybe.

--EleganXD

--Fiery Bloodlust 17:04, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Usui Oyaji/Lycan and Five Semenoian Warriors
Sorry to bring this issue up again but the shaman file extras from Vol. 17, that where recently uploaded by Meo-chan, provide futher confirmation that his name is Lycan rather than Oyaji, as again it is already stated in english that it is such.

Also, I previously had an issue with the page "Five Semenoian Warriors" that was never dealt with but rather than asking you to search for it, I'll simply re-post the information below.


 * I was just wondering if the spelling of 'Semenoian' was correct, as many sites seem to spell it 'Seminoan'. If the current version isn't correct, I'll simply move it over to a page using the correct spelling.


 * Also, they are listed as the Five Semenoian Warriors but this is in fact their number in the anime not the manga. It states on the main page, When editing these pages, please remember that the storyline of the anime series cannot be considered canon. So even if the spelling is correct shouldn't the page be moved to the page Four Semenoian Warriors, which is in line with the numbers that appeared in the manga. Blackstar1 16:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Blackstar1 18:03, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Male/Female Characters pages
There are some mistakes on the two pages "Male Characters" and "Female Characters". Komeri and Rutherfor are listed as males, and there are a couple females missing. I can't seem to edit the two pages, nothing shows up... is there a way you can fix them? Meo-chan 06:25, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've already resolved the issues with Komeri and Rutherfor but I'll see if I can also sort out the issues with the missing characters as well. Blackstar1 13:37, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

brother Gojita
I was wondering if whats a good color for ryu's gang. like X-laws haves black and blue and the tao family haves black and white. what is a good color for ryu's gang? look here for a good color colors Eliskuya2 13:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!
Hi there!

No problem about the spirit of earth edit, i love the 5 elemnt spirits, the images i uploaded to earth, rain, thunder and wind are a bit dark, but i'm working on the light of those :D

I love the wiki and i'll work hard to keep it this good :D

Later!

...so tiny... 02:47, 29 August 2009 (UTC)adrian-nation.

lee's upgrade
do you know when in the manga we learn about his upgrade? i am trying to find a good lee pic to use but i really can't find one, sure the one in his page on this wiki is good but i need something diffrent, like his blue prints or something like that, if you can reamber what part in the manga jun say something in the lines of "he didn't have all his parts so i had to improvice" or something like that i'd be in your dupt or what the word is Faustfan 09:17, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Full names
Pretty much all of the pages list the characters with their full names; you can see "Asakura Yoh" and "Asakura Hao" on many of the pages listed several times. I propose that these be changed to their first names only, or whatever name they usually go by, to make the reading easier. Besides, after a while people know that Yoh's last name is Asakura and don't need to be reminded. I have already done this on a few pages, but will wait for your response before doing it on a larger scale. Thanks. --Byakkougan 16:55, September 26, 2009 (UTC)


 * There's no need to threaten me, I was asking your opinion before doing so. So basically what you are saying is that the first link has full names but any mentionings afterwards can be shortened to only the first name? --Byakkougan 17:19, September 26, 2009 (UTC)


 * I understand, and thank you. I only wanted to change it in the main sections, not under oversoul names or anywhere it is considered formal. I also want to say that I am not here to causeyou any trouble, just to make the wiki better (it needs A LOT of improvement) and I will ask and post on the talk pages before making any major changes. --Byakkougan 17:28, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

what do you need me to do?
I can help you link to other websites, or get pictures just let me know on my page--Eliskuya2 16:16, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Anna
Hmm... I thought we agreed to move the article back to its original location, as I proposed. In other words, I provided a rationale, you did not answer my point, and I took silence for consent. Evidently, I was wrong. Having actually read the character files and appropriate Mendalite sections, I found that the author was, in fact, extremely clear on this matter: If need be, I can back that up with the necessary evidence. Considering than Anna (The original) is one of the the major articles, I took the liberty of moving it back. My reasons are two-fold: At the same time, I moved the Anna III article because the title was equally as misleading. The Japanese name is 'Sandaime Itako no Anna', or 'Anna, III generation Itako' (the author probably left out' generation' in the character files due to 'Engrish').
 * The original Anna is a II- generation Itako.
 * Anna III is a III- Generation Itako; NOT the third Anna who is also an Itako.
 * It's confusing and misleading to readers.
 * It's redundant, and inappropriate. Nobody calls Kino 'Asakura Kino I'.

In all cases, clarity was the main motivation. While I can understand why you'd strike me, this setup was (is) NOT optimal, and in my opinion required immediate rectification, given the importance of at least one of the articles in question. For that matter, I don't even get why you had to move those articles in the first place. It is a setup that deliberately confuses the user. -- Foolworm 13:59, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

It's been about a week since my reply on this matter, and there have already been voiced problems with this setup. An answer would be appreciated; otherwise, I will simply take silence for consent and move the articles again (assuming they are already unlocked). To be blunt, you are taking a tyrannical stance in an issue that is extremely clear in its case. Foolworm 06:16, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Shaman King Flowers/Funbari no Uta
I know you told Cococrash that there should not be a separate section for Flowers and Funbari no Uta, but they are two different things. To put everything that happens after the Shaman Fight under Funbari no Uta is inaccurate and implies that it all happened in that one short epilogue, which it didn't. The section should be renamed "Epilogue" or something, or Flowers should have its own section. --Byakkougan 18:45, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Five Grand Spirit's Mediums
I'm the one who originally changed the mediums for the Five Grand Spirits from "Unknown" to what they are listed as in Mentalite. Sorry I know it's not totally protocol to just go a-changing things without a username, but I live in Japan and own copies of all of KanZenBan so I thought I should contribute. I don't have a scanner but I do have rudimentary knowledge of Japanese (can't do true translations) and an electronic dictionary and I've been able to glean some information not found on this wiki or released by mankin-trad yet. Let know if you need anything.

Hello Admin
Hi, I'm Sxerks, from the Anime &amp; Manga Hub

I'm asking admins of Anime-related wikis if you would add this link   to the bottom of your SIDEBAR. Its a link to the Anime & Manga Hub on Wikia.

We are currently working on adding basic pages as well as a list of anime wikis on wikia.

The Hub also serves as a place to link to common actors, artists, and anime terms like Rie Kugimiya which you can link to in your articles.

We Also have a monthly Anime/Manga spotlight on our Main Page. Read about it here.


 * --Sxerks 23:23, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

what you think? :)
I am adding Origin on all Characters pages want me keep it up or keep it peacy holla Gojia nee-san --"I've spent years waiting for this moment!" 23:37, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Information
Hi, I'm a fan of Shaman King that he would like to know everything about the series, and I wondered if not too much trouble and if you please, you could do an article on what is Furyoku and Reiyoku and the differences and similarities of these, and on Hell and the Kings, as I have not read the manga but I would like to know that information, if any page more complete than this, I would like to know, but this is the one I am guided and visit.

Sorry my bad English, I speak Spanish, if you speak Spanish would be better, hehehe, greetings and thanks.

Pardon me,but I have a question.What does the colors mean in the infoboxes,because each one I looked at has either pink,yellow,green,blue,cyan,red,or black?Hikaruyami-having fun* 15:55, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

About Yoh Asakura
Hello! I'm Italian. Before in Yoh Asakura's page there was an information: in Funbari no Uta Yoh is 21. Now, this information is different: in Funbari no Uta Yoh is 22. How do you deduce Yoh's age? Are you sure that Yoh is 22? Are you sure also that in Funbari no Uta Hana is 6, and Anna is 21? Where are wrote these informations? Do you know exactly Men Tao's age? If you want, you can answer me in italian discussion page of Reyon (this is my name), or ,if you have difficulty, in your page. Thank you! Goodbye!


 * I'm an Italian user, and my name doesn't appear in the sign. You can answer me in my Italian page: my name is Reyon. It's not important that you leave your sign in my page. Goodbye! 83.225.43.223 13:18, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Hi!Found an error in Lyserg's data, he actually had 170000 furyoku XD Hope I helped!

Fogot to sign my post up there! ByaKKou 01:13, February 26, 2010 (UTC)ByaKKou

Matamune Voice Actor
Someone asked who the voice actor for Matamune was. I can't work this site just yet but I know it was Tanaka Hideyuki. :). Hope it helps <3.ChiisaiMini 17:29, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%94%B0%E4%B8%AD%E7%A7%80%E5%B9%B8_%28%E5%A3%B0%E5%84%AA%29#.E3.81.9D.E3.81.AE.E4.BB.96

I got some bad news
Wikia. is deleteing evey skin. on wika's and I think we need a new skin, I don't like this looks of this gojia san, I hope you find a way to work it out. with my help. holla --Eliskuya2 21:21, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect information
VooDooDollMaster 21:54, January 13, 2011 (UTC) May I ask why I was not allowed to put the correct information about Nichrom's personality? It said he has a short temper and gets angered very easily when concerning Tao Ren...which is not true...I tried to edit it but you erased everything I wrote.

Eliskuya's pointless reverts
Hi there! Can you please talk with Eliskuya about reverting nearly all of my edits I do to this wiki? It's very annoying, I've been correcting a LOT of mistakes on the pages of the Lily Five girls and Eliskuya just goes ahead and reverts them all. And every time I try to talk to him he just tells me to go to you. I even made a little template to make the pages with links to the main pages about characters to look better (Seealso template, it was used on the FFWiki and it worked really good and made the pages prettier). So can you please tell him to stop reverting every edit he sees, it's not just me, even the guy above me complained about him. Thanks! --RazielZero 21:50, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I really don't know what "fanfiction" is. I'll stop editing the wiki that I've made a wrong story. Can a wiki be made that the anime story really ain't exist like its just made up and please and you tell me how to delete a page like your doing to my created page "Yin Misha Asakura"?ROSCEL 09:28, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

please delete the page "Yin Misha Asakura", I'll just make my own wiki that I'll create my own, I'm sorry and thanks for the warning

Wikia Anime on Twitter
Hello, I'm Kate from the Wikia Content team. We are trying to create a WikiaAnime Twitter group, where all of the amazing wikis can come together and share their most exciting information, and hopefully get a lot of new users! To join, all you need to do is post this Twitter button and tweet list on your main page.



Then you can visit the Anime Twitter Suggestions Page and post tweets you'd like to see, with links back to your wiki.

Please share this with your other members and admins and see if it's something they'd be interested in joining! Let me know if you have any questions, and we hope to see you there!

Kate.moon 07:19, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I'm putting the Twitter button on the mainpage if you don't have any objections. It's been doing really well on other anime/manga mainpages and I think this will help you guys get more traffic and buzz!

Let me know if you'd like me to tweet anything for Shaman King here: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Community_Central_talk:Content_Team/WikiaAnime_Twitter_Suggestions?cb=9431

Kate.moon 00:02, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Ponlaluz 17:31, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

A Sister Wiki
Hi, my name is Divinecross, and, umm, I'm an admin at the Ultimo Wiki. It's also a Hiroyuki Takei series, and umm, I just wondered if we could consider you our sister wiki. It's the closest one I could find, because there are really not much of Takei's works that have wikis. Thanks. Divinecross

Some times i will be busy so can you help me finish any new pages that i create?

abolut those Untranslated Extras
I'm translateing them now. if I do. well you be happy :), message the full story, I need a comment from you, we never talked in ages old man Gojita!, I got my own shaman king wikia too. and I'm watching over this wikia to see if you need me or not so holla if you need me for those Extras buddy --Eliskuya2 21:54, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Eliskuya2 Behavior
Eliskuya2 reverted my edit when I had good reason to make the edit: http://www.mankin-trad.net/read/albums/kang-zeng-bang-extras-11~12/%5BM-T%5DKZB_Volume12pg06-07.jpg

Could you please make sure that the reverts are actually justified as I understand that is not the first this problem has come up. 24.125.18.239 03:01, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

why not rename the page and fix it then. not puting the info there. it dose not say it. --Eliskuya2 04:25, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Main Page Tweaks
Hello! My name is Nic and I'm a member of the Wikia Content Team. When browsing through some sites, I came across and noticed that perhaps it could use a few tweaks on the main page to spruce it up a little bit/engage people some more. Would you be ok with me tweaking it a little bit? Also would you mind having the Wikia Anime Twitter placed on your main page like on XXX Holic, we think it could benefit you! - Wagnike2 17:47, September 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * This is my current proposed main page for you guys here, keep in mind that the 2 column layout is something that has to stay in place. I'm willing to work with you on a compromise of sorts if this doesn't work for you, just let me know where to go from here. - Wagnike2 17:08, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * The thing is though, Ultimo and Jumbor also need the right column ad to work on them. So the designs of those need to be changed too. And the column thing is something that we can't get rid of. The rest of the changes I can work on though. - Wagnike2 17:58, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * The double column has to be how it is set up that way for ads to work properly, that can't be changed. - Wagnike2 18:03, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Collums

 * Your solution doesn't work though, look at it now with ads. This is why it can't be centered like you have it. - Wagnike2 19:59, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * See these examples: Shaman King Skin.png Jumbor Skin.png Ultimo Skin.png. This is what centering does, push all your content down the page way too far. Hence, why you need to set up columns how I originally suggested. - Wagnike2 20:43, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * It worked on Ultimo, etc. before because those pages didn't have ads. But they are required to be placed on Wikis, so it's not a bug. But I will talk to my bosses and leave things alone for now until I see what they say. - Wagnike2 21:09, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sure no problem
Hey, if you'd like to help, can you help with me out with the actual character profiles on my wikia? It's for my fanfictons so that I can actually keep track of the stories, and I need some help with the real characters and not the OCs. So can you?

--Hoshi Wo Tsuki 21:40, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

http://theshamankingffhwt.wikia.com/wiki/The_Shaman_King_FF_HWT_Wiki Thanks. I'm totally useless when it comes to making things like that for the actual characters. Actually, I'm pretty useless with writing about actuall characters period. So thanks. I hope this won't be an inconvienience or annoyance to you.

Hoshi Wo Tsuki 21:55, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Heading Wrap
What do you mean by heading wrap? - Wagnike2 19:18, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

HI,

My name is Peter and I'm the content production manager at Wikia. I've noticed that your number of registered editors is down sharply in October. I'm wondering if it has to due with the ad pushing the content down on the main page since you don't have left/rt columns. I know Nic has offered to put them up for you, please let me know if we can go ahead and do that. Don't want you to lose any more editors!

Thanks,

Peter 18:45, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I read Shaman King about a year ago and I'm glad to see that the wiki is still going strong- I hope Shaman King: Flowers (the spin off) is going to be big, if the writer makes more...

Evil Overcast 16:54, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Background Suggestion
Hi. I just wanted to suggest you request a background here. I requested it for my wiki and now it looks great. DSM144 15:57, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

you want to link share[] 23:53, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

you want to set up a link to geisha world 13:42, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Shaman King Zero
A chapter of Shaman King Zero has been releashed: http://www.mangastream.com/read/one_shot/68915056/1

Of the illustrations, I found this one showing Yoh using five Shikigami Ko-oni: http://img.mangastream.com/m/10/68915056/a1fa376a668a7b86a50f9317d85db9bd.png

Perhaps an update is in order? Chimera-gui 22:25, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for watching my back
sorry, for the long wait Gojita, I been busy late around at the Fan wiki of this one. so don't worry about me. I got your back, and I got yours, anyways. I find a good website has nice clean shots of shaman king the anime. just let me know if you want the website on here too. thats where I got the types of shaman info from, happy late new years old friend, peace out --Eliskuya2 02:57, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

just a question...
i'm not mad, just curious; why did you undo the tao ren edit i did?Blackdragon14 04:29, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

hi i am new to the wikiverse can you help me with the rules and stuffBruce2550 19:05, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Hi,How do I get started?(Bruce2550 13:05, February 28, 2012 (UTC))

Request to Delete Spam Articles
Hello Gojita,

I've noticed some spam articles and one spam account (with a lot of spam blog posts) have appeared on the wiki.

For now, I've place the deletion tag on the two spam articles and left a message on the Category_talk:Candidates_for_deletion page relating the reasons why the two articles and the user listed should be deleted. There are actually several others that appear to have been tagged for deletion as well as spam articles.

I hope that you'll be able to look into and resolve it. Thank you.

Eikakou 06:55, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

English names - Manga vs Anime
Hi again Gojita, I have a question regarding differences in English manga translations and the English anime translations.

In cases where the terms are different (for example, for the Futunomitama no Turugi, the English manga uses "Futsunomitama Sword" whereas the anime uses the "Antiquity"), which term should be placed in the "English" slot for the table?

For example, the English manga uses the term "Ultra Senji Ryakketsu" for the Cho-Senjiryakketsu while the anime uses "Tome of the Shaman". It seems to mean that the "English" slot can be filled with both "Ultra Senji Ryakketsu" and "Tome of the Shaman", with an annotation explaining one is the manga's term and the other is the anime's term.

Another example would be Team "Funbari Onsen" - the term used in the English edition of the manga is "Team Funbari Hot Springs" (which is a literal translation of the Japanese name) while the English anime refers to Yoh's team as "Team Asakura" instead.

As you've explained, the "Romanized" slot in the table would be how the Japanese name would be pronounced (in the examples given "Futsunomitama no Tsurugi", "Funbari Onsen", and "Cho-Senjiryakketsu" would go in the "Romanized" slot).

Can the "English" slot be filled with both the manga and the anime term if they are different?

Eikakou 07:36, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Gojita
I just wanted to stop bye and say hi to you. I will have lots of fun here and I am already raned #8 on the wiki! see you 19:26, March 17, 2012 (UTC)EmperorPeelaugh575

Character Box Template Adjustment
Hi Gojita,

I think I owe you this heads-up.

I've removed the "bounty" and "devil fruit" categories on the Character Box template as they are irrelevent to this wiki and are very evidently left-overs from a One Piece template.

However, removing those categories means that anything slotted into them don't appear on the table. This can be fixed by moving the information slotted into those categories into "Extra1" and "Extra2", which currently aren't being used for anything.

I can make all these edits if need be, but it's a bit of a massive undertaking because of the sheer number of characters. It might take some time, so I just wanted to let you know (and maybe you could let others know)?

Thank you, Eikakou 02:52, March 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just giving an update from the last message. I've moved all the "Furyoku" information into the "Extra1" slot and the "Guardian Ghost" info into the "Extra2" slot for all the characters on the wiki that I could find that were using the character box template.  I think the only character using the template that I didn't edit was a character named Mephias because the article was locked due to an unresolved edit war (I think).


 * There is a possibility I might have missed some, but I think I've adjusted the majority so that the unrelated "Devil Fruit" and "Bounty" slots aren't used anymore. Eikakou 10:36, March 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello again. I've seen your message and I apologize for the trouble I've caused.   I won't make major edits like that in the future without consultation.


 * If you're willing to still discuss it at the moment, I do think the naming of the categories is something that needs to be changed for this wiki. You have noted that the two Extra slots may be needed for future categories, such as a second anime series VA.


 * Is it possible to rename the categories instead to "furyoku" and "guardian" to reflect content of this wiki instead of a One Piece wiki? It might be fuctional, but it is also confusing to see categories in the template that are unrelated to Shaman King.


 * Renaming the categories shouldn't require creating too much new template related information - all that would need to be done is changing the names of the renamed slots on pages currently using the template with those categories.


 * Please let me know if that is a more suitable proposal. I'm sorry again for all the problems I caused with changing the template.  Eikakou 22:17, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Voice Actors
I found some of the jap voices for some characters

Free Day-Kanji Suzumori

John Denbat-Katsuyuki Konishi

Larch Diarc-Tomohisa Asou

Porf Griffith-Takehito Koyasu

Luchist Lasso-Katsuyuki Konishi

Mohamed Tarbarsi-Masahiko Tanaka

Damayaji-Koichi Sakaguchi

Liam Diethel-Masamichi Sato

Pino(Young)-Nana Mizuki

Patch Hao-Hikaru Midorikawa

Orona-Takaya Hashi

Savage Pan- Susumu Chiba

Mr. Little Lake-Katsuyuki Konishi

Green Garam-Toshitaka Shimizu

Nikkou-Takkou Ishimori

I found them on this website

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1174

Also, shouldn't we put the voice actors for some of the spirits, Like Amidamaru, Bason,Pyron, etc. ?

Megapeyote 20:55, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

heeey i need your help about this blog, i dont understand nothing but i love shaman king. can you help me?

Message for Gojita
Heeey can you help me about this blog? and do you know something about season 2? PLEASE answer meee

Guardian Ghost article editing
I tried to edit some typos in the Guardian Ghost article, but was unable to do so. I thought I'd point this out so someone who has the access can edit them.

Kasaix 07:10, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Eliskuya being difficult again
I hate to bother you again regarding Eliskuya's behavior, but he/she undid a correction I made despite the fact that I looked up the term "surname" and it was in fact being used wrong since Horokeu is the character's first name. Chimera-gui (talk) 15:38, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Website
Hi, I was wondering can you tell me the website for Shaman King Flowers and Shaman King Zero? I saw it on some pages before, but now I can't seem to find it again. The site I'm talking about is the one that has the promotional images of the Shaman King Flowers characters.

M+W  Talk   06:35, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Something I thought you should know
Doomroar has been insulting the wiki despite the fact that you gave a reason for not accepting the info he added:

http://www.mankin-trad.net/news/shaman-king-flowers-chapter-4.html


 * not to sound rude, but Doomroar has awful spelling, calling the "lazer" beams attack thing with a "z", that's horribly. incorrect, its caled "Laser" not "lazer". I'm pointing something out to him, I got a feeling he's going have a backup on this wiki, you better this about blocking him. before he sends you hateful words to you Gojita-san. good thing he's not over my fan wiki. I just dislke people talk like "all this is noz that in the story, blah blah blah"you know what I'm saying here?, well I hope you better think about it. before he gets angry at you, if you need help. I'm gladly to land some help to keep this place alive. peace out Eliskuya2 (talk) 14:40, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking
I did not put the look a like on there, that was Megapeyote, and also may I help out for the picture Licensing. I am really good at that, I love to help out to you Gojita. just let me know. I love to make this place better for you. and I'm always helping out. let me know. if you need help my friend. see you and have a nice weekend :) Eliskuya2 (talk) 19:54, August 31, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I was thinking about completely revising the episode list page and adding an external summary page per episode?

Of course reinforced with pictures of it.

However, I haven't got a clue how to edit these templates or how to change it.

I'd love to make it look more clear to visitors.

I've gotten an example of how it should be in my opinion:

http://futurediary.wikia.com/wiki/Episodes_List

I made with the help of the community at that wiki.

Seeing this wiki being so big and nice, it just makes me sad that is has both an incomplete episode list and hardly any images so far..

If you'd help me I'd like to try to make this wiki even better :)

P.S. sorry for eventual mistakes I make, it's been a long day and work's calling the upcoming 2 weeks so...

-es

Ok ;)
It's ok, just keep me up, we could maybe add at least the remeining episodes and I noticed there is a huge gap between season 1 and season 2 :x

Maybe we could use the Wikipedia episode list or so...

Anyway, I'd like to try to make some more elaborate descriptions or maybe a special page per episode with episode info and images just like I did in Future Diary wikia :d, but it can differ a little if it would fit your expectations more then ^^

-es

very bad file name deletion/rename request
Hey gojita, is this a bad file name or what?

File:Tumblr m6nbmnyJLP1rwrk04o1 1280.PNG

Eliskuya keeps taking off the request to delete template like it was a good file. As admin. Ur the only one who can delete/rename files. I think eliskuya isn't being fair by taking off the tag before you've looked at it. I have to ask you directly 'cause I noticed eliskuya has a history of erasing people's messages he doesn't like and saying its your job to look into thing.

96.49.65.55 20:56, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion..
Hey, I started working on an more elaborate chapter list of the regular manga series. I'd like to have your opinion about the layout etc before I start to put alot effort in it :x

http://shamanking.wikia.com/wiki/Shaman_King_Manga

I'd also like to suggest this layout for the full 64 episodes of the anime as there are alot missing at the moment.

Currently I'm working in my free time on short summaries of both the manga as well as the anime series.

Esmorax (talk) 13:47, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Well..
Hey,

Uhm, well.. it was just a basic layout on which I hadn;t done much so far.. but it would be rouglhy my idea tbh..

Maybe you can teach/show me how to add colours like in http://shamanking.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Shaman_King_episodes ??

I just can't ge tit out of my mind to see an incomplete episodes list to be honest.. :/

Because I'm not that familiar with templates atm.. I could make them all like http://shamanking.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Shaman_King_episodes layout otherwise?

As I said before.. It's just to give you the idea of what I'm trying to make (a)

But I would be happy if you could guide ma a bit on this wiki because I'm still just new here :P

Esmorax (talk) 06:51, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Could you teach me..?
Hey,

I was hoping that you could teach me how to insert more rows and colums like they are in http://shamanking.wikia.com/wiki/Shaman_King_Manga

Or maybe you could make sure there are 300 rows?

the same goes for the episode lists, I'm trying to make 64 rows... I removed the tamplates because it'd be easier to edit and better to overviws in my opinion. Or should I asl Eliskuya2?

Kind regards,

Esmorax (talk) 10:23, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, but could you maybe add some more empty templates so I just ahve to fill 'em in..?

In total there is need for 64 parts..

But I don't really see the difference between use of templates and the regular ones :x Maybe could you explain it to me why you like tamplates so much :x?

Esmorax (talk) 21:26, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Ok :)

Thx for the extra info, I'll try and experiment some on my own page and maybe on the Manga list.

I'll tell you when I'll get struck ;)

Regards,

Esmorax (talk) 15:28, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

something fishy
whenever I add new info and I go back and see User Arch angel gabriele.‎ is deleteing it and puting the same Categorie, on the same page. can you help me with this trouble maker Gojita?, well let me know how it works out, I'm trying my best to help Esmorax‎ around the manga page. well let me how it goes, see you Eliskuya2 (talk) 03:53, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Char box Template
Since we do not use or  ,it might a good idea to change those into Furyoku Level and Guardian Ghost respectively as well as delete  and. Chimera-gui (talk) 19:43, November 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Very well. Chimera-gui (talk) 23:24, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Amidamaru Expansion Removal
Why did you remove my edits to the Amidamaru page? It was rife with grammatical errors before. Is it a bad thing to expand the history section? -Arch angel gabriele, 16:30, January 25, 2013, (MST)

we got a problem
every time, I make a new color for the characters info boxes, one of them well cry and say"I can't see this" or "the color is to bright" mind helping me out before I get angry, and I dislike crybabies on here. I got good ideas and they think my ideas are wrong. I guess my computer can see everything, anyhow, I hope in the future I can help you out soon, when I can, see you soon Gojita Eliskuya2 (talk) 21:23, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

http://w11.zetaboards.com/Shaman_King_RP/index/ Kurobina (talk) 04:47, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Undoing my edits
Hey sorry to bother you but i was just wondering why you undid my edits, the pictures i added were official manga art and they looked better then the ones that were there before.HazeShot (talk) 08:55, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

I just like manga pictures more then the anime ones and their are a lot of cool ones, how about this for Faust VIII. HazeShot (talk) 01:23, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

I want to help this wiki but if you guys dont like any of the pictures i put then i dont know what to do. Maybe im not doing it right, so here this picture of Hao without his cloak, i put it under appearance and made sure it wasnt in the middle of a sentence, but it still got deleted, im not seeing why so please help me. Also since you didnt like the thing i tried with Faust's page let me try another thing. HazeShot (talk) 05:53, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

They dont serve no purpose, they are pictures of what Faust looks like throughout the manga.



I was wondering if i could change Faust's main picture to this one, its shows his whole body, its official manga art and i think it looks alot cooler then the curent one. HazeShot (talk) 07:27, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Anna I
Hello, I was the one that edited thanks for welcoming me ^^

I actually forgot to log in...^^

Caring too much is losing. Join the not caring attitude! :D - Spyken (talk) 14:17, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia
Last time I checked, updating Wikipedia links wasn't considered a crime. Therefore I have done nothing that could considered vandalism and Eliskuya had no reason to do what he did. Chimera-gui (talk) 13:44, March 3, 2014 (UTC)

quick question
before I meet you, you said something about the anime is not canon, I have to agree, but the thing is, do you want me do an ep infobox, just let me know, I think I got the hang of it, of making those. expect one thing, I can make a lot of mistakes, at times. but you got my back. I have to hand it to you, you are always there to help out, unlike some users on here. they just post fanart on here and real pictures, I tell ya, it gets a bit rash at times, anyways. I am trying figure out to do this, wish me luck then Eliskuya2 (talk) 19:10, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

how about those
ep titles they have what we are looking for, I think I am kinda getting the hang of this,weird. let me know if you like this idea, I can start updating those for you on each ep, btw mind blocking a user for me, he's making a mess of things, like posting random pictures that are not in the ep, well let me know if you like those pictures of ep titles, I kinda think that's kinda useful, don't you think so?, well yell then :)Eliskuya2 (talk) 21:13, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

Hi :) I'm kinda new here, so please forgive me if I did something wrong ?

Anyways, I was kinda hoping you could help me with something. i watched Shaman King anime and read the manga. And I was just wondering when does Shamah King Flowers post?

I love your blog, it's a good thing you're admin :)Bakickaa.djina (talk) 13:41, March 30, 2014 (UTC)J

Edits
Hi there. this user, Eliskuya2  is making really counterproductive edits and claiming the colored character files seen in the KZB are "non-canon" and is being a very bad troll and being very overly aggressive... can this user be blocked? very unprofessional behavior...--RexGodwin (talk) 03:14, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

Gojita do you remember you said before
that don't place random pictures in the random, that make pages, don't look right, well. I guess someone is doing that, and I am trying keep the page the way you wanted, plus, me and S.sanchez are taking a break of the Episodes, plus rex has bad language, is that allowed to say that on others pages, if so, please remind rex to watch his language, I am thinking going do another episode and call it a day for me and S.Sanchez, let me knowEliskuya2 (talk) 03:15, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

I know you're going ask me this but
I how to delete new versions of those pictures, if only you can make me Administrator, I can show you how do it, let me know. and also the episodes are running just right, the way you wanted, let me know if I can help out soon have a nice day sir Eliskuya2 (talk) 01:39, April 11, 2014 (UTC)

User Elisukuya
Can you please talk to this user, or do something.. he is really obnoxious.. reverting edits that i make fixing his awful grammar, without so much as saying a word as well as removing images for no reason... its extremely annoying and counter productive.. this user really ought to be blocked for a while, would teach her a good lesson for abusing her editing abilities...--72.201.75.108 12:30, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

try harder, godofear, you just make things even worst, and I am a male keep that in mind Eliskuya2 (talk) 12:49, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

Edits
with all due respect, I did list my reasoning, and no offense but those templates are kinda half finished not to mention have either shoddy anime images or none at all, why not make the stuff i was adding into the actual template? the stuff looks better presented that way with the teams displayed first.--RexGodwin (talk) 18:46, June 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. I just find it seems to be so dead here, its hardly worth bothering. and ugh. besides you there hardly seems to be many competent editors, because no offense to him/her that Elisukuya person seems to be quite counterproductive half the time. Also I want to bring it up again, What are the sources for Hao's Kazegumi group? they were never mentioned in anime or manga to be working together let alone a name given, so I seriously question its validity if no one has a canon source on their name. Yeah yeah, Haos men worked in teams of 3 and all that and peopel are filling in the blanks, but for all we know, Anahol was grouped with any of them so Boris Yamada and Brocken might not even be a team. The only place i can guess is some databook but it doesnt seem to be mentioned anywhere else in SK related fiction or on the Internet, so I seriously think we should consider it false info.--RexGodwin (talk) 20:05, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re
Well yes, i have infact brought it up here: http://shamanking.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Team_%22Kaze-Gumi%22 but it really didnt go anywhere, Id figure Id ask you directly and get a more direct response.--RexGodwin (talk) 20:37, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

Fight between two users on my talk page?
Hello Gojita,

I'm not really sure what occurred, but there seems to have been some sort of disagreement on my talk page between two users. I don't really understand what happened or why it took place on my talk page, and I hope that you'll believe me when I say that I wasn't involved at all.

If it's possible, could I delete it? Or maybe you could look into what's going on between the two users?

I'm sorry to trouble you with this issue.

Eikakou (talk) 06:09, June 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * Actually, Gojita, as a matter of record, I don't have a problem with being forced to keep it on the page. But it seems very... odd that it occurred on my talk page


 * I'm concerned that a misunderstanding of sort is being directed at me (unless I've done something, for which I'd like a response explaining what it was so I don't repeat it).


 * I'm hoping that you'll still look into it and contact the appropriate parties regarding this issue.


 * Thank you. Eikakou (talk) 06:14, June 11, 2014 (UTC)

Category question
Can one add new categories to the wiki? S.sanchez (talk) 12:41, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I ment like Team "Hoshi-Gumi", "Tsuki-Gumi", "X-I" etc. Since most teams in the Shaman Fight have their team as category, creating and categorizing those might be a good idea for keeping things consistent   S.sanchez (talk) 16:48, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

Eps
Hello, just to let you know: The eps are done after 3 months of hard work XD It was quite some job. I was thinking, maybe it's usefull to add 1 or 2 relevant pics to every ep if possible. Let me know if you think that's a good idea or if you have some pics that we might be able to use   S.sanchez (talk) 17:29, July 15, 2014 (UTC)