Talk:Lyserg Diethel

Furyoku
At the end Lyserg had 170.000 of furyoku, not 115.000!
 * The "Mentalite" fanbook has it listed as 115,000. I know in the manga it gives his level as 170,000 so it causes a bit of discrepancy, but the Mentalite is what is used for our info. I'm assuming that's what Takei ultimately decided on. Meo-chan 19:54, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * They made a mistake in mentalite! 115.000 is the remain Lyserg's level of furyoku after the battle with Bron. When all level were shown in the manga, you can see that Lyserg has 115.000/170.000
 * I'm well aware of what the manga has his level as, as I've already said. It could be a mistake, but again, the Mentalite is what is being used for our info. There could be an explainantion of this change somewhere, but as of now I'm unaware of it, so his level will be kept as is. Meo-chan 19:47, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I say that mentalite is the newest and thus we can consider the old numbers as a misprint, especially since we don't have a scan of the new volume.... wait, Meo-Chan could you please look your copy of the chapter through and tell us if the value is changed in the new Kang Zeng Bang version. Until then we go after the Mentalite info. --Gojita 19:40, July 25, 2011 (UTC)Gojita
 * Lyserg's max Furyoku/Mana is still listed as 170,000 in the most recent volume release, 115,000 is only referring to the amount of Furyoku he had remaining, so it should be changed to 170,000. Clearly, the Mentalite made a mistake.70.176.192.65 13:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

The mentalite fanbook is still considered the final source of information until something is otherwise stated by the author! Gojita (talk) 19:47, 16 November 2020 (UTC)Gojita
 * Screw the Mantalite! The most recent manga release has redrawn panels by the author himself, it should be taken as the most recent source. If 170,000 was meant to be a mistake, it would have been fixed there, but it wasn't. 115,000 doesn't even line up with whats stated in the manga, which is that Chocolove and Lyserg are the strongest of the 5 Warriors by far, with Ren being the weakest. 115,000 is an error, 170,000 is the correct number. 70.176.192.65 23:52, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

The 2021 anime, which has been using redesigns from these post-series books, also listed Lyserg's level as 170 000 in Episode 48 (1). This suggests the number was indeed a typo. The small Mentalite profiles have several typos, especially with names. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 18:56, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * yeah it seems obvious enough there was an error there.Marcusbwfc (talk) 22:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Info Box - Multiple Spirits
In the info box, Morphine is the only guardian ghost listed for Lyserg. This issue is related to other shamans as well as Lyserg. Why is this, and if it's a mistake then what is the formatting to fix it? --Byakkougan 22:52, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Its a formating isue i have been working on forever, but i still cant figure out how to deal with it. For now if any shaman has more than one spirit, i will only list the main spirit in the infobox, such as Chocolove having Mic and Lyserg having Morphine. --Gojita 17:51, October 9, 2009 (UTC)Gojita

Homing Pendulum Versatility
While rereading the manga, I noticed that Lyserg can use his Homing Pendulum as a grapple (volume 10), make a net out of it (volume 12), and catch objects/people by wrapping the wire around them (volumes 22 & 31). Should we mention these uses?24.125.18.239 18:59, July 25, 2011 (UTC). Would it be possible to link in the data book, so that we can all see Lyserg power. Much like what was done on the Opacho Talk page.